Radeon R9 270  vs GeForce GTX 750 Ti 

I dont know anyone who runs their gpu at full load for 6 hours every day or the year...

Depends on the case and fans a lot too Jethro, don't call people liars.

except not in real life performance

Except you are wrong..... 75 watts 6 hours a day is 8+cents a day at 20 cents kw thats 25-30 bucks a year.

For me what matters is the cost of energy , size, price and obvious quality. The technical support and updates of drivers is very important. Either AMD or Nvidia is irelevant because the software and aplications are exactly the same. Usually in the same price range is no more than 4- 6 fps the diference. Too shame thats only two companies manufactured Gpus.

The 750Ti is good for people who are power constrained, and can run off of some strong 300w PSU's, but if you have a 430w or higher PSU already, the 270's (and now 370) is probably the better option. Great price / performance for 1080p. If you want 1440p, the 380's something to consider, as it does pretty well at 1440p at the same price as the Nvidia 960, which is more of a 1080p card. Nvidia for power efficiency, AMD for great price / performance. If you're a Linux gamer though (all 3 of you, and that may be including me), AMD's not as hot on Linux, but is still okay as long as you're only using 1 GPU. Crossfire doesn't work too well on Linux if it works at all. Not that Linux games really even have Crossfire / SLI profiles whether you go AMD or NVidia...

Thank you! People don't understand that as much as I wish they would. Which is why a 280 is better than a 270x, and why the 270's are better than the 750's.

You, Noobs :)) If you want to compare the power consumption of R9 270, then you should compare it to GTX 760,(even look at their shapes) Then decide which is fare. GTX ti is just a toy to compare 270 :))

which is why i also bought a 750ti. i dont live in a hot area, but i do pay my own electric bill.

Thanx for the information....

r9 270 has 2,304gflops with 900 mhz core clock

No problem at all. I'm happy to help.

Thanks a lot for your information, you have been a valuable help.

I've never used Zotac personally, but I've considered it a few times for a stupid reason - some of their box designs are neat...That part aside, I've heard good and bad, but some people put them on par with, or better than, EVGA. I do know they put out their own version of the SSC/FTW versions called "Amped" but I don't know how they rank. In general, judge by price, but reviews speak volumes. All the brands tend to compete in price for card type. So if you're looking at an MSI standard 960, see what the EVGA standard 960 sells for, or the SC (Super clock, not ssc). EVGA does tend to have a higher price tag depending on where you buy. Also, while some people don't care, check to see if you get a deal when you buy a card. Some brands package different games, but if its a big game release then all the brands may carry it. Only mentioning since you may want the game and as a package you can save money.

You have been a great help....I´ve had both Msi and Asus cards and don´t like them....for no special reason....what do you think about the zotac brand....because evga is a little expensive to me, although they are top quality....

There are different factors that go into OC'ing, but the motherboard may be your issue. It may also be your power supply not being high enough quality, or something else all together. There is just no definite answer to that one. My motherboard is the GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3P, but my CPU isn't the same as yours. My wife's motherboard is MSI 760GM-P34 (FX) which is the same chipset as yours. Unfortunately, I haven't tested overclock at her request lol She had a friend who fried his CPU messing with OC'ing some years back so she stays away from it. My advice is to not touch the OC'ing on your system if its doing a blue screen even using the cpu over drive. If you want to upgrade your mobo to test, then its your call if you have the money, but I just want you to know that it's no guarantee to work. It may still be too unstable to OC. SSC is Super Super Clock edition - its a slight improvement on the usual Super Clock editions. FTW is "For The Win" edition and its an improvement on the SSC. Each one just builds on the next usually with increased base memory or core speed, and that means it will auto-OC slightly higher as well. My FTW 960 cost me around $220 (not counting taxes) and it was a 2GB version. I think Amazon has a SSC 4GB version of the card for a little extra money that some people opt for due to the memory. That extra memory does come in handy with certain high end games though if you plan to run Ultra mode. In Terms of brand, a lot of brands have a Super Clock Edition, but EVGA capitalizes with SSC and FTW editions by giving even more performance boosts. I'm not entirely sure, but I don't think ASUS or MSI carry FTW editions. They tend to take a standard reference card and make their version, then leave it at that. So the drivers rarely ever get an update directly from them, and sometimes their cards don't work as well with the NVIDIA driver updates. So I tend to stick with EVGA if I go with a mid/low grade NVIDIA card. But as with most things, that is a preference. Some people swear by ASUS and MSI.

I tried the oc with amd cpu overdrive, but in the ccc control panel it´s not included....and yes, it was like you described, but even that way the blue screens happened....Do you think may be the board is too basic? it´s the chipset 760g, and the ventilation is good, I have an upgraded cpu cooler: temps in idle are about 20 degrees celsius....what chipset is the board you have? And what are the SSC and FTW editions?

CPUs in general can become very unstable at the slightest OC - be it voltage or core speed. That said, the FX series has a bit of OC potential itself and can be set higher using the Catalyst control panel - or at least my could when I opened cpu over drive. If you are OC'ing in another manner, this may be why it blue screened. The catalyst cpu over drive for AMD chips will scan various OC frequencies for the CPU to find out what is stable, then offer them as choices via a slide bar. So prior to the cpu overdrive, my bar went from around 1ghz to 3.5ghz, but after I could slide it up to 4.0GHZ. I believe the 6300 can do about the same or little better since the individual cores are already faster than the FX8320 at normal frequencies. I did have my cpu OC'd to 4.0 for about a week, but since it voids the warranty if its damaged while OC'ing even with the catalyst control panel, I opted to just set it back to normal speed. It only made a fps difference of about 5-10fps depending on the game, and it didn't increase load times beyond what my SSD already improved on, so it wasn't not worth it to me. With your cpu, you don't need to over clock for good game performance. You just need a good graphics card, power supply to support along side your cpu, and good ventilation on your PC to keep it cool. If you go with a GTX card, I highly recommend either a SSC or FTW edition since they auto-OC based on game needs, and they seem both stable and good at temp management.

and how much gflops has the r9 270?

I have the fx 6300 too, and I have oced it sometimes, (just for fun) but every time it ends on a blue screen. Do you think is the board? The same happens when I oced the card too high....but the card admits some oc....

FX 8320 3.5ghz 8 core - 4ghz if I OC'd, but doesn't seem necessary. My wife has the 6300 6 core - basically the same clock speed but less cores. The card works just as well in her system. Better for gaming iirc depending on the game, but I use my PC for work as well so I opted for 8 cores.

thanks for the information, I want the 960....what processor do you have?

Graphics are quite amazing. I have smooth play in Evolve and SWTOR - It handles shadows very well so I can maintain ultra settings in SWTOR between 50-70fps and medium/high settings in Evolve @ 60fps - I lock evolve frame rate or it would go 70+ Some people complain about 60fps, but it seems to be different from card to card or system to system. My wife's card for example is the 750ti and ran smooth @ 30ish fps in SWTOR, but my r9 270 at the time had higher fps but didn't feel as smooth - probably due to my hard drive issue. Now with the gtx 960 I get that same smooth feel that the 750ti had, but with much higher graphics and consistent higher frame rates. My GTX 960 is a FTW version - so for this card I have 2 definite pros: auto overclock and good temp control. No issues even as it auto clocks itself higher. That said, it can still be over clocked further with the voltage, memory speeds and target power. Ease of OC is due to EVGA Precision program though. Another bonus is that I lowered the power target to 80% and it still had excellent frame rates in evolve, but lower temps. I don't have many high impact games to test with, but Witch III Wild Hunt game code came free when I bought the card at best buy so I assume it can play the game which appears to look amazing. Not into the game so giving the code to a friend :p As a note, in the beginning of my last post I said that I had issues with the card similar to the r9 270 until I was able to switch my BIOS sata settings to AHCI mode. After that the issues disappeared. So it was a system issue and as of yet, no problems. I've also recorded a few videos using GeForce Experience ShadowPlay and it does so quite well. Resolution and framerates are linked so for reference, I have a 24" monitor at 1920x1080. I set my SSD to RAPID mode to increase read/write times just to be sure there wasn't a hard drive bottleneck for shadowplay recording. I know this part vears from the topic of the GTX 960, but wanted to put it out there so people don't blame a GC for their system settings as I initially did for the r9 270.

Ok, and how is the gtx 960, is it a good card? any pros have you found so far?

Yes to correct this review - I did end up getting a GTX 960 FTW which works great, but I still had certain issues. It turns out my SSD was in IDE mode so after acquiring drivers and switching settings in BIOS with a safe mode boot to prevent blue screen, the issues were gone. So had I found this out before, the r9 270 probably would have been fine. No way to tell now since I sent it to a friend who was using old intel motherboard video. He was happy and didn't report anything odd so I'll assume it was just my hardware setup. That said, the 750ti didn't lock up in my system before, so I can only assume that the cards own limitations allowed it to not attempt to dip completely into evolve's potential, where as the r9 270 was. This was evident by medium settings being more crisp on the R9 270 than they were on the 750ti even with FXAA disabled. The only thing I can specifically attribute to be true on the r9 270 performance that was consistent is that the "waves" were present on both PCs so the 750ti was more stable to a certain extent, and I didn't have heating issues with my r9 270 card due to good ventilation. The other issues duplicated to a certain extent on to the GTX 960 - about equivalent in gpu potential. These issues stopped when I did the solution first mentioned. So given the state of my SSD not being in AHCI mode, my review for r9 270 I would say is unfair. As I said in previous review, other games such as sniper elite 3 were smooth as butter while maxed, but evolve was a different matter. Much more gpu, hard drive and cpu intensive so it can cause lots of issues if the system has one thing is setup wrong.