Radeon RX 470  vs GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 

Any time that you want upgrade a GPU. The power supply is very important. Dells, come with low end power supplies. I suggest an 600/750 watt power-supply. To power up 95 watt cpus, and a disent V Card. Unless you are buying a high-end dell Alienware, computer. Than you will get regular stuff.

Nvidia's prices are so unreasonable, AMD did invest more money in Power so they need more Energy but now it has got changed, AMD has taken the lead of the best GPUs

Thats because of CryptoMining, wait 'til Christmas and prices are going to get normal! I've got a local store which "Dodged" Ethernum Bullet (Bitcoin Mining) so prices are reasonable!

75W and 120W. Clarissa you are talking about getting a new GPU from savings of power draw difference between these 2 GPUs. 164,25€? for 2 Years? Where are you living? 10 hours a day? That isn't norm, I work 8-12 hours a day and what are chances for me to play something? If you are 30 don't you have wife/girlfriend? If you wake up at 7 o'clock, go to job at 8 o'clock come back at 18 (6 PM) o'clock. Then you are playing games 10 hours, why don't you turn off your computer while going to job? Is 45W really a difference, RX 470 60 FPS GTX 1050Ti 40 FPS, at this "Benchmark" we see that 45W for additional 20 FPS. From laggy 40 FPS to fluid 60 FPS. To clear things up! Best buy GPU: RX 470

Here the rx470 cost around 60% more. The best option for me is the GTX 1050ti.

Maurice just went FullRetard.

After that huge trade of insults and strange "facts" that has happened, have you considered undervolting a rx470? still better at the same TDP, with no power conector, you can undervolt it and not use the PCIe energy slot, it's not recommended as some configuration software make hardware tests, and require the conector for those

That also has to do with the "Sillicon lottery", they need to give more than necessary so it has spare room for bad cases, I also have one and what he is saying is possible, if you are lucky

I'm Glad I got my 1070 for the price of a 1060 then. While AMD is making great strides in performance, their heat issues on their GPU's still remain a concern for me. The Ryzen has me excited because they don't seem to run as hot while putting out major performance. I just wish they could translate that TDP over to their GPU's so you don't have to have to go overboard to cool the system. Simple fact is, AMD GPU's tend to run way hotter than nVidia.

Okay :3 Thank you Taylor

I pay .30 per kwh :) So $40 savings. And I flagged Tim for his shameful agressive talk including namecalling...

Well, TDP and power draw are two different things. TDP is a measurement of heat generated by the component, not isn't its actual power draw. With TDP results being measured in watts just like electricity, it's easy to see how the two get mixed up so often. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_design_power

I really doubt that your 470 is only drawing 87 watts. How did you measure that?

She's actually right about its power draw, with the 470 actually drawing nearer to 140 watts under a typical gaming load. The 1050 Ti draws about 75 watts under a typical gaming load, so the cost to run that vs the 470 is about half. That said, if a person games for five hours a day every day of the year, and electricity costs that person $.15/kWh, then it's only a savings of $20.53 after a year, and the person takes a noticeable hit in performance (either in framerate or graphics settings). I personally prefer the better-performing card (I have an 8gb RX 480) but different situations call for different solutions.

Hmm okay :/ Weird that is has such a high TDP then by AMD v.v

Brandon Maceri Nope, I'm not an Nvidia fangirl at all xD I never gave one single shit about brands to be honest :) And I even owned a Radeon HD6870 and X850XT before... So yeah...

your just a nvidia fangirl

its such a minimal cost on electricity its almost negligible. the 470 smokes the 1050 ti.

thats not how tdp works you fucking autist

You're the one who called me an idiot and told me to cry some more, but I'm being a rude dick. Gotcha :D

Stop being such a rude dick ;_;

LOL, I received an email saying you replied calling me an idiot and telling me to cry to some because I called you out on your exaggerations. Looks like you might have deleted it. You went from saying you could save 164,25€ in two years to saying your savings in one year is enough for a new card in your most recent comment. Sure, I'm the crying idiot. lmao! :D (BTW, never criticized your card choice, just amused by your last reponse)

Well that escalated quickly. Now you're saying with your power savings in a year by using a 1050 Ti vs RX 470 you can buy a new card? GTFOH

You completely missed my closing point with my last comment. Your situation is not a normal situation, even for gamers- a lot of whom have lives outside of eating, sleeping, and gaming all day. You've been talking like efficiency is such a life-changing factor- it might be for you and your situation, but for the rest of us who work 40+hours a week and have friends to visit with and other hobbies, the amount of money we save on efficiency becomes considerably less and it makes it less of an obstacle towards the visually nicer experience. The value of a graphics card isn't just how much it costs to purchase and use, or nobody would have ever bought the R9 295x2 or Titan X. Things that factor into value might be features (having a Freesync monitor, for instance, makes an RX 470 a much wiser choice than a 1050 Ti in every instance except for power draw), potential for higher frame rates, or even nicer graphics settings, and possible discounts or hookups (buying used or doing an EP). The 470 offers almost all of that over the 1050 Ti except for the power draw, which for most users comes down to the previously mentioned "$15 more yearly for a 470". I digress, though. The point I'm trying to get across now is that I'm not arguing anymore that you've not found the best solution for you, or that you're wrong (It'll still take longer than a year to save for your 'new' graphics card, which BTW, if it's an 'upgrade' in any way, is going bump up your electrical bill regardless of what card it is) . What I'm saying is that your approach is very specific to you and doesn't necessarily apply to everybody else. I game considerably less than you, work a hell of a lot more than you, and care more for a high-fidelity experience. Yes, my game runs smoothly, but I'm also getting higher frame rates and better graphics quality. The more expensive card becomes a better value when the end user wants to look at nicer images, higher framerates, and (once out of the budget level and into mainstream performance) 1440p/4k/VR. Another side note: "Fluid" gameplay is very vague. Console gamers consider 24 to be fluid. I don't consider anything less than 90 to be fluid, especially if there are any frame time variances. A 1050 Ti is not going to be powerful enough for most users once they get used to a higher framerate and refresh rate (admittedly, neither will a 470, but that's why I've got an 8gb 480).

Lind L Taylor If I work 9 Hours, and game 10 hours, I still have 5 Hours left. And while showering I have the game running and I'm logged inside but I am afk. While eating the same. But the game runs and pulls energy out of the power plug :) And I do not have a work right now. Since I am ill and so I can't work in my condition. That's why I have so much time where I'm bored and so I play alot :) And even if I only saved 50€ it's still 50€. Money I do not need to waste if this lower consumption card renders my games fluid. No need for a higher consuming card, to gain more frames per second, I don't even need. Since my game ran fluid nonetheless :)